Sporting Life
Sporting Life
Is the Sporting life a super fast course?
my friend ran this am, and had a personal best of 54min. Her previous best is last yr (not SL 10K) is 1:12. Her 5k time is usually around 34min, so a 54 min 10k, seems SO fast !!?!?!
my friend ran this am, and had a personal best of 54min. Her previous best is last yr (not SL 10K) is 1:12. Her 5k time is usually around 34min, so a 54 min 10k, seems SO fast !!?!?!
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Re: Sporting Life
fit-kitty wrote:Is the Sporting life a super fast course?
my friend ran this am, and had a personal best of 54min. Her previous best is last yr (not SL 10K) is 1:12. Her 5k time is usually around 34min, so a 54 min 10k, seems SO fast !!?!?!
Wow, that IS a remarkable improvement. I wonder if the course was measured correctly?? If it was 10km then kudos to your friend 18 minutes off a PB in 1 year is amazing!!
PBs
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
Re: Sporting Life
The course is FAST, and 100% measured correctly. My garmin had it at 10.11K
That is a great improvement, but we have to know all of the story of your friend's training.
That is a great improvement, but we have to know all of the story of your friend's training.
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purdy65 wrote:The course is FAST, and 100% measured correctly. My garmin had it at 10.11K
That is a great improvement, but we have to know all of the story of your friend's training.
The results have 5K splits too, so check that.
My chip time was 2 seconds off of my garmin, so I know the timing was good as well.
Check the results at chiptimeresults.com or sportinglife10K.ca
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Re: Sporting Life
purdy65 wrote:purdy65 wrote:The course is FAST, and 100% measured correctly. My garmin had it at 10.11K
That is a great improvement, but we have to know all of the story of your friend's training.
The results have 5K splits too, so check that.
My chip time was 2 seconds off of my garmin, so I know the timing was good as well.
Check the results at chiptimeresults.com or sportinglife10K.ca
Her first 5k was 22min,2nd was like 29 or something.
She doesn't train....that's the thing, she was worried about even finishing. She runs maybe 1-4 x a mth. No speed training, her run usually consists of 3-4k, walking another km or so.
So Debbie Downer (<----me) while I am happy for her, am frustrated that I bust my @$$$, for similar results.
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Re: Sporting Life
fit-kitty wrote:
So Debbie Downer (<----me) while I am happy for her, am frustrated that I bust my @$$$, for similar results.
Why get down about it? You run for fun, training is fun and you are getting great health benefits from it, so why worry about what others can or can't do.
There are always folks who are natrually athletic and can run very fast on very little training, it is what it is, you can't control that, so why get down about it. You should be proud that you are committed to your training and enjoying this great pastime...
PBs
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
Re: Sporting Life
mas_runner wrote:fit-kitty wrote:
So Debbie Downer (<----me) while I am happy for her, am frustrated that I bust my @$$$, for similar results.
Why get down about it? You run for fun, training is fun and you are getting great health benefits from it, so why worry about what others can or can't do.
There are always folks who are natrually athletic and can run very fast on very little training, it is what it is, you can't control that, so why get down about it. You should be proud that you are committed to your training and enjoying this great pastime...
I know and overall i know you are right. Just surprised and shocked at the results, having been at previous runs with her, this isn't her norm.
I totally don't mean to sound like that. Thanx for the butt kick and reality chk. Lol
Sporting Life
mas_runner wrote:fit-kitty wrote:
So Debbie Downer (<----me) while I am happy for her, am frustrated that I bust my @$$$, for similar results.
Why get down about it? You run for fun, training is fun and you are getting great health benefits from it, so why worry about what others can or can't do.
There are always folks who are natrually athletic and can run very fast on very little training, it is what it is, you can't control that, so why get down about it. You should be proud that you are committed to your training and enjoying this great pastime...
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Lisa looked up your results, holy cow you were fast! Well done, congratulations.
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fit-kitty wrote:I know and overall i know you are right. Just surprised and shocked at the results, having been at previous runs with her, this isn't her norm.
I totally don't mean to sound like that. Thanx for the butt kick and reality chk. Lol
No problem, I had that similar feeling in the past. I have a friend who runs once a year and clocks 22:xx in a 5km race. My PB is 22:10. At first I had the same recation as you, "WTF???", but he is very athletic, plays hockey, frisbee etc. He is an excellent athlete, although he doesn't train specifically for running.
Then I thought, "no, good for him, I love the training, the races etc etc, I m having fun, why should I let what others do spoil my outlook".
PBs
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
Re: Sporting Life
A few more thing-
Doing 5K training runs (or non-races) at 34 minutes doesn't necessarily mean that a 54 minute 10K is out of the ordinary-- my 5K easy runs are often are anywhere between 30 and 35 minutes yet I race a 10K much faster.
If her first 5K really was 22 minutes then her second 5K would have been 32 minutes-- is that right? or 25/29?
If she really did 22/32 it makes me wonder a little bit if she cut the course short. Or she just went out really fast and slowed down. 25/29 is also a big slowdown but more reasonable for someone who doesn't know there own speed and starts pretty fast.
I also have several friends who started off much slower than I was but have since passed me in speed, some with less training, others taking a lot less time to get where I am. I'm happy for them and try to take my own achievements for what they are and not compare to their times.
Doing 5K training runs (or non-races) at 34 minutes doesn't necessarily mean that a 54 minute 10K is out of the ordinary-- my 5K easy runs are often are anywhere between 30 and 35 minutes yet I race a 10K much faster.
If her first 5K really was 22 minutes then her second 5K would have been 32 minutes-- is that right? or 25/29?
If she really did 22/32 it makes me wonder a little bit if she cut the course short. Or she just went out really fast and slowed down. 25/29 is also a big slowdown but more reasonable for someone who doesn't know there own speed and starts pretty fast.
I also have several friends who started off much slower than I was but have since passed me in speed, some with less training, others taking a lot less time to get where I am. I'm happy for them and try to take my own achievements for what they are and not compare to their times.
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It would be a really hard course to cut short, it's pretty straight. 22/32 might mean a bit of walking in the second half if a natural athlete went out a bit too fast.
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Jwolf wrote:A few more thing-
Doing 5K training runs (or non-races) at 34 minutes doesn't necessarily mean that a 54 minute 10K is out of the ordinary-- my 5K easy runs are often are anywhere between 30 and 35 minutes yet I race a 10K much faster.
If her first 5K really was 22 minutes then her second 5K would have been 32 minutes-- is that right? or 25/29?
If she really did 22/32 it makes me wonder a little bit if she cut the course short. Or she just went out really fast and slowed down.
I also have several friends who started off much slower than I was but have since passed me in speed, with less training. I'm happy for them and try to take my own achievements for what they are and not compare to their times.
No the 34min is her RACING time. In October.
Lol
Thx, i think mentally I have been struggling with the running lately. I do love it, and of course want to do better. The last 2 races I have done have been tough courses, so I guess I was feeling
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fit-kitty wrote:Jwolf wrote:A few more thing-
Doing 5K training runs (or non-races) at 34 minutes doesn't necessarily mean that a 54 minute 10K is out of the ordinary-- my 5K easy runs are often are anywhere between 30 and 35 minutes yet I race a 10K much faster.
If her first 5K really was 22 minutes then her second 5K would have been 32 minutes-- is that right? or 25/29?
If she really did 22/32 it makes me wonder a little bit if she cut the course short. Or she just went out really fast and slowed down.
I also have several friends who started off much slower than I was but have since passed me in speed, with less training. I'm happy for them and try to take my own achievements for what they are and not compare to their times.
No the 34min is her RACING time. In October.
Has she done anything else since October to improve her athletic ability? I want to know.
If she's a natural athlete I wouldn't expect to see a 34-minute 5K race time in her past.
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Re: Sporting Life
Jwolf wrote:
If she's a natural athlete I wouldn't expect to see a 34-minute 5K race time in her past.
Uh oh, Inspector Wolf is on the case...
PBs
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51
2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon
Re: Sporting Life
OK,
Maybe there is something odd going on. My time matches my garmin exactly, but does anyone this this is possible for the winner?
1 21321 RICH VANDERWAL 22:22 SM40-44 1/824 1 2:15 22:22 9:40 12:43 Toronto
Would this not be some sort of record? and a 9:40 first half?
Second place is much more reasonable at 31 minutes.
Maybe there is something odd going on. My time matches my garmin exactly, but does anyone this this is possible for the winner?
1 21321 RICH VANDERWAL 22:22 SM40-44 1/824 1 2:15 22:22 9:40 12:43 Toronto
Would this not be some sort of record? and a 9:40 first half?
Second place is much more reasonable at 31 minutes.
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purdy65 wrote:OK,
Maybe there is something odd going on. My time matches my garmin exactly, but does anyone this this is possible for the winner?
1 21321 RICH VANDERWAL 22:22 SM40-44 1/824 1 2:15 22:22 9:40 12:43 Toronto
Would this not be some sort of record? and a 9:40 first half?
Second place is much more reasonable at 31 minutes.
I just googled him and he's in a wheelchair. http://www.neurocorephysiotherapy.com/rich.html Is that a realistic pace for wheelchair athletes?
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Ahhh OK! That would make it more sense. It makes no indication of that in the results!
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I think if he's in a wheelchair that makes sense. That's fast though!
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I didn't realize they went that fast. That is FAST!purdy65 wrote:Ahhh OK! That would make it more sense. It makes no indication of that in the results!
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Sporting Life
mas_runner wrote:Jwolf wrote:
If she's a natural athlete I wouldn't expect to see a 34-minute 5K race time in her past.
Uh oh, Inspector Wolf is on the case...
ha! Not in that way.
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Nice race today, very well organised, and with such high numbers. Finished in 35:52 chip time for 43rd, or 42nd if you discount the wheelchair (which alarmed me first too!). humidity was tough, was a little slower than yonge street 10k for me.
Just heard a woman collapsed at finish line and is in critical condition
Hope everything works out for her.
Just heard a woman collapsed at finish line and is in critical condition
Hope everything works out for her.
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I think another huge factor is that the race is largely downhill! Especially the first half (which probably partly accounts for her splits being so different). And the second is very flat. I set a 10K PR there today and my training has been crap, so I'm pretty sure it was gravity that was helping out!
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Something wrong with the chip timing/wave start. The large number of huge positive splits tells that. Quite a few WR 's set in the first 5km.
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