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Postby QuickChick » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:30 am

Jinx. Was just about to post this. Shocking!!! So he may have mistaken her for a burglar... I don't know how likely that is but it's a good argument against keeping guns at home "just in case".
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Postby Dr. S » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:34 am

I was shocked to hear this on the radio this morning too!

Apparently, the police has been to their house before for domestic violence so I wouldn't rule out anything.
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Postby Tori » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:03 am

Wow! What a shock.

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Postby HCcD » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:06 am

Oh, the irony .... :shock: :?

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Postby RA. » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:07 am

I just saw the story on twitter. How terrible. She was hit four times. Would you shoot a burglar four times? Maybe you would. Regardless of what happened, what a tragedy.
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Postby CAW » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:43 am

RA. wrote:I just saw the story on twitter. How terrible. She was hit four times. Would you shoot a burglar four times? Maybe you would. Regardless of what happened, what a tragedy.


That's what I was thinking!

That, and, there have been times Scotty or the kids have startled me, but I can tell it is them because I know their body movements... so, I'm not sure I'm buying the mistaken for a burglar story.

Should be interesting to see how this story unfolds.
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Postby DonnaRigs » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:56 am

This was shocking! The newspaper did make the point that South Africa is a very violent place (thus supporting the whole burglar theory), but the fact police have been called there before certainly puts a more deliberate spin on it.
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Pistorius charged with murder!

Postby Jwolf » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:00 am

DonnaRigs wrote:This was shocking! The newspaper did make the point that South Africa is a very violent place (thus supporting the whole burglar theory), but the fact police have been called there before certainly puts a more deliberate spin on it.

The burglar theory was only speculation by the media and others and not by the police- I don't buy it for one second. Not to mention that one wouldn't get charged with murder in a case of accidental self-defense.

This is very tragic.
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Postby eme » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:05 am

CAW wrote:
RA. wrote:I just saw the story on twitter. How terrible. She was hit four times. Would you shoot a burglar four times? Maybe you would. Regardless of what happened, what a tragedy.


That's what I was thinking!

That, and, there have been times Scotty or the kids have startled me, but I can tell it is them because I know their body movements... so, I'm not sure I'm buying the mistaken for a burglar story.

Should be interesting to see how this story unfolds.


I am not going to wade deep in to this one, but most training is that you keep shooting until the threat stops (i.e. is no longer a threat), so you could conceivably shoot someone multiple times.

I am not sure of the self defence laws in South Africa but it is extrememely well know for highjackings/kidnappings.

ETA - many times in what turns out to be self defence cases, the police will charge intially and let the courts sort it out/drop charges as the investigation progresses.

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Postby RA. » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:32 am

eme wrote:
CAW wrote:
RA. wrote:I just saw the story on twitter. How terrible. She was hit four times. Would you shoot a burglar four times? Maybe you would. Regardless of what happened, what a tragedy.


That's what I was thinking!

That, and, there have been times Scotty or the kids have startled me, but I can tell it is them because I know their body movements... so, I'm not sure I'm buying the mistaken for a burglar story.

Should be interesting to see how this story unfolds.


I am not going to wade deep in to this one, but most training is that you keep shooting until the threat stops (i.e. is no longer a threat), so you could conceivably shoot someone multiple times.

I am not sure of the self defence laws in South Africa but it is extrememely well know for highjackings/kidnappings.

ETA - many times in what turns out to be self defence cases, the police will charge intially and let the courts sort it out/drop charges as the investigation progresses.

The reporter in the CTV link that Marg linked to on FB also noted that in a gated community, since the gates are meant to keep out the burglars, those who are broken into may feel even more threatened, and that accidental killings are more common there in these areas.
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Postby Jwolf » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:23 am

So much media speculation....
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Postby Tisha » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:24 am

Very sad news. My mom's neighbours recently moved to Canada from South Africa. They've told Mom some pretty horrible stories. They always had a family member stay home when there was shopping to do or errands to be run. An empty house is a burglarized house from what they say. They've also told her about women and girls being victimized on a regular basis. They have two young girls and wanted to move to a safer country. So far they've found Alberta very welcoming.

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Postby jonovision_man » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:36 am

Jwolf wrote:So much media speculation....


Yeah, who wants to wait for a police investigation and trial when the media can just guess at it? :?

On the bright side, this may finally put an end to the "does he have an advantage?" debate.

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Postby Robinandamelia » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:54 pm

Saw that this morning and was shocked! Horrible.

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Postby cbaker1 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:17 pm

I am shocked that people are actually shocked that this guy could be charged with murder.

Let's see, wasn't he the guy charged over an incident in 2009, where a 19 woman at his house had a wooden beam hit her by accident when he asked her to leave his house. I know wooden beams fall down in my house all the time and just about hit people.

I believe he also threaten to break a soccer player's legs after he thought he cheated on his GF late last year.

Sounds like he has anger management issues... Maybe he didnt run enough.

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Postby HCcD » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:55 pm

Just listening on the radio and one speculation was that, his GF was initiating some sort of Valentine Surprise that apparently resulted in him reacting to a possible break-in ... blah, blah, blah ... :shock: :?
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Postby Jo-Jo » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:25 pm

cbaker1 wrote:I am shocked that people are actually shocked that this guy could be charged with murder.

Let's see, wasn't he the guy charged over an incident in 2009, where a 19 woman at his house had a wooden beam hit her by accident when he asked her to leave his house. I know wooden beams fall down in my house all the time and just about hit people.

I believe he also threaten to break a soccer player's legs after he thought he cheated on his GF late last year.

Sounds like he has anger management issues... Maybe he didnt run enough.



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Postby Sir Crashalot » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:42 pm

Lack of firearms discipline... a very pretty girl, what a shame.
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HCcD wrote:Just listening on the radio and one speculation was that, his GF was initiating some sort of Valentine Surprise that apparently resulted in him reacting to a possible break-in ... blah, blah, blah ... :shock: :?


Well, this theory has since been x-nayed ... back to possible domestic conflict / violence, according to CNN ... :roll: :what:
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Postby Spirit Unleashed » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:16 am

Poor Nike seems to pick the "winners" when deciding who to sponsor! :lol:
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Postby fingerboy » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:19 am

At least he shot her... it would have been much worse had the 'blade runner' cut her or used his cf legs to break her windpipe

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Spirit wrote:Poor Nike seems to pick the "winners" when deciding who to sponsor! :lol:


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Postby HCcD » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:29 am

HCcD wrote:
HCcD wrote:Just listening on the radio and one speculation was that, his GF was initiating some sort of Valentine Surprise that apparently resulted in him reacting to a possible break-in ... blah, blah, blah ... :shock: :?


Well, this theory has since been x-nayed ... back to possible domestic conflict / violence, according to CNN ... :roll: :what:


Getting weirder and weirder .. latest news report on CNN this morning, was that he may have shot her through/behind the locked bathroom door ... :shock: :?
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