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Vancouver Sun Run competitors stripped of their medals

Postby MrBond » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:16 am

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Postby Robinandamelia » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:31 am

Just reading this article know...crazy!

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Postby carm » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:51 am

:? :shock: Wow, that's ridiculous.
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Postby mas_runner » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:19 am

Looking at the video, it is pretty clear, there is no way she could have run sub-42 at that pace. I guess with that many runners she could amble across the finish line and not look too conspicuous. Apparently she's been doing for years. Why? Surely her friends know she can't run at at 4:00/km clip for 10 kms???
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Re: Vancouver Sun Run competitors stripped of their medals

Postby ian » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:42 am

Reminds me of an old Simpsons episode:

Bart: Well Dad, here's my report card. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Homer: [incredulously] A-plus?!? You don't think much of me, do you boy?
Bart: [almost proudly] No sir!
Homer: You know a D turns into a B so easily. You just got greedy.


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Postby ultraslacker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:59 am

Disappointed they didn't mention ***** in the cheating examples. ;)


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Postby La » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:03 am

ultraslacker wrote:Disappointed they didn't mention ***** in the cheating examples. ;)

I love how after all these years the word H A M P O still get's ****'d out! :lol:
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Postby Hammie » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:20 am

La wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:Disappointed they didn't mention ***** in the cheating examples. ;)

I love how after all these years the word H A M P O still get's ****'d out! :lol:

That was before my time on RM, but I've heard that name referred to several times. What's the story?
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Postby Engmomma » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:22 am

Hammie wrote:
La wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:Disappointed they didn't mention ***** in the cheating examples. ;)

I love how after all these years the word H A M P O still get's ****'d out! :lol:

That was before my time on RM, but I've heard that name referred to several times. What's the story?


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Postby Stampie » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:30 am

ian wrote:Reminds me of an old Simpsons episode:

Bart: Well Dad, here's my report card. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Homer: [incredulously] A-plus?!? You don't think much of me, do you boy?
Bart: [almost proudly] No sir!
Homer: You know a D turns into a B so easily. You just got greedy.


(Hell hath no fury like a runner jobbed out of an AG prize...)

:lol:
I often refer back to this quote, a classic.

I heard about this while listening to CBC Radio 1 while getting ready for work.
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Postby ultraslacker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:48 am

Hammie wrote:
La wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:Disappointed they didn't mention ***** in the cheating examples. ;)

I love how after all these years the word H A M P O still get's ****'d out! :lol:

That was before my time on RM, but I've heard that name referred to several times. What's the story?


It actually happened before RM even existed. The fellow cheated in a marathon (Toronto, I think?) and got caught by the sleuthing skills of our own jgore, who notified the race directors. He was disqualified. Actually had nothing to do with RM, but later on people here were discussing the incident, and the fellow saw that he was being talked about. He started harassing me to remove the posts, remove his name from the site, remove it from google, etc, or he was going to take me to court. :roll:

So we made him a swear word (this way his name doesn't show up on the site!). :lol:
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Re: Vancouver Sun Run competitors stripped of their medals

Postby ian » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:01 am

Stampie wrote:Surprised? Not really, it's a huge race and it can be easily done, especially on the Cambie Street Bridge. I'm sure a few others did it last Sunday too.

No doubt. I'm curious about how how these two were caught, seeing as I don't imagine there would be any (or enough) checkpoints en route. Was it just the guy shooting the video following up on something that looked fishy, was there some cyberstalking from another AG-er, did someone close to these two blow the whistle, or ... ? Also, was there an actual AG awards ceremony, and if so, did these two attend?

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ultraslacker wrote:
Hammie wrote:
La wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:Disappointed they didn't mention ***** in the cheating examples. ;)

I love how after all these years the word H A M P O still get's ****'d out! :lol:

That was before my time on RM, but I've heard that name referred to several times. What's the story?


It actually happened before RM even existed. The fellow cheated in a marathon (Toronto, I think?) and got caught by the sleuthing skills of our own jgore, who notified the race directors. He was disqualified. Actually had nothing to do with RM, but later on people here were discussing the incident, and the fellow saw that he was being talked about. He started harassing me to remove the posts, remove his name from the site, remove it from google, etc, or he was going to take me to court. :roll:

So we made him a swear word (this way his name doesn't show up on the site!). :lol:


that is awesome!!
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Postby Robinandamelia » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:07 am

Engmomma wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:
Hammie wrote:
La wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:Disappointed they didn't mention ***** in the cheating examples. ;)

I love how after all these years the word H A M P O still get's ****'d out! :lol:

That was before my time on RM, but I've heard that name referred to several times. What's the story?


It actually happened before RM even existed. The fellow cheated in a marathon (Toronto, I think?) and got caught by the sleuthing skills of our own jgore, who notified the race directors. He was disqualified. Actually had nothing to do with RM, but later on people here were discussing the incident, and the fellow saw that he was being talked about. He started harassing me to remove the posts, remove his name from the site, remove it from google, etc, or he was going to take me to court. :roll:

So we made him a swear word (this way his name doesn't show up on the site!). :lol:


that is awesome!!


Wow!!

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Postby ultraslacker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:11 am

he's not the only person to threaten to take me to court over RM stuff. :lol: :roll:

eta: for those of you who remember, the other was MsMartini. ;)
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Postby turd ferguson » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:14 am

I wish I could find that thread (I can't even remember whether it was here or at the RR) where it was deduced not only that he cheated but how he did it, where he must have gotten on the subway and where he must have got off, and the somebody else found other questionable results from other races. It was like a 2004 version of the Reddit hunt for the Boston bombers.
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Postby Stampie » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:15 am

ian wrote:
Stampie wrote:Surprised? Not really, it's a huge race and it can be easily done, especially on the Cambie Street Bridge. I'm sure a few others did it last Sunday too.

No doubt. I'm curious about how how these two were caught, seeing as I don't imagine there would be any (or enough) checkpoints en route. Was it just the guy shooting the video following up on something that looked fishy, was there some cyberstalking from another AG-er, did someone close to these two blow the whistle, or ... ? Also, was there an actual AG awards ceremony, and if so, did these two attend?

Another possibility, 'Big Brother' was watching. There are a number of traffic cameras on the bridge. It would be interesting to see how they did it.
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Postby ultraslacker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:16 am

it would have been RR because it was before RM!
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Postby Hammie » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:16 am

ultraslacker wrote:he's not the only person to threaten to take me to court over RM stuff. :lol: :roll:

eta: for those of you who remember, the other was MsMartini. ;)


ok, now we need the brief won't-get-you-sued synopsis of this one, too!
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Postby Jwolf » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:21 am

ian wrote:
Stampie wrote:Surprised? Not really, it's a huge race and it can be easily done, especially on the Cambie Street Bridge. I'm sure a few others did it last Sunday too.

No doubt. I'm curious about how how these two were caught, seeing as I don't imagine there would be any (or enough) checkpoints en route. Was it just the guy shooting the video following up on something that looked fishy, was there some cyberstalking from another AG-er, did someone close to these two blow the whistle, or ... ? Also, was there an actual AG awards ceremony, and if so, did these two attend?


I'm curious too. There is an age-group ceremony, but I'm not sure if they attended.

Also, the top ten in each age group are published in the newspaper on Monday.

It is a crazy story- sounds like they didn't think they'd get caught and that it wouldn't matter. There are lots of places you could cut the course short, and I suspect many of the recreational runners and walkers do it-- not to cheat but just because they don't think they can run the whole 10K. In the past you could just wear the bib and no chip-- now the bib includes the chip.
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Postby ultraslacker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:23 am

Hammie wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:he's not the only person to threaten to take me to court over RM stuff. :lol: :roll:

eta: for those of you who remember, the other was MsMartini. ;)


ok, now we need the brief won't-get-you-sued synopsis of this one, too!


she was just a **** disturber. But we happened to have a gear order going when it all went down, and she left the site (I would have banned her if she hadn't chosen to leave instead), and then she was demanding her shirt money back (I had the money but the shirts were still being made). I sent her the money but when it didn't come fast enough she started harassing and threatening me. :roll: I wouldn't want her wearing our gear anyway.
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Postby Engmomma » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:25 am

Hammie wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:he's not the only person to threaten to take me to court over RM stuff. :lol: :roll:

eta: for those of you who remember, the other was MsMartini. ;)


ok, now we need the brief won't-get-you-sued synopsis of this one, too!


Totally with you on this one too Hammie...where on earth have I been. :)

There have been a number of other crazies on here too. The guy that typed will all Caps On The First Word. How Did He Do That? This Is Killing Me To Do.
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Postby turd ferguson » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:40 am

ultraslacker wrote:
Hammie wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:he's not the only person to threaten to take me to court over RM stuff. :lol: :roll:

eta: for those of you who remember, the other was MsMartini. ;)


ok, now we need the brief won't-get-you-sued synopsis of this one, too!


she was just a **** disturber. But we happened to have a gear order going when it all went down, and she left the site (I would have banned her if she hadn't chosen to leave instead), and then she was demanding her shirt money back (I had the money but the shirts were still being made). I sent her the money but when it didn't come fast enough she started harassing and threatening me. :roll: I wouldn't want her wearing our gear anyway.


Funny. That's not even the one I was thinking of.
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Postby ultraslacker » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:45 am

turd ferguson wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:
Hammie wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:he's not the only person to threaten to take me to court over RM stuff. :lol: :roll:

eta: for those of you who remember, the other was MsMartini. ;)


ok, now we need the brief won't-get-you-sued synopsis of this one, too!


she was just a **** disturber. But we happened to have a gear order going when it all went down, and she left the site (I would have banned her if she hadn't chosen to leave instead), and then she was demanding her shirt money back (I had the money but the shirts were still being made). I sent her the money but when it didn't come fast enough she started harassing and threatening me. :roll: I wouldn't want her wearing our gear anyway.


Funny. That's not even the one I was thinking of.


weird, which one were you thinking of?!
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Postby turd ferguson » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:47 am

ultraslacker wrote:
turd ferguson wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:
Hammie wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:he's not the only person to threaten to take me to court over RM stuff. :lol: :roll:

eta: for those of you who remember, the other was MsMartini. ;)


ok, now we need the brief won't-get-you-sued synopsis of this one, too!


she was just a **** disturber. But we happened to have a gear order going when it all went down, and she left the site (I would have banned her if she hadn't chosen to leave instead), and then she was demanding her shirt money back (I had the money but the shirts were still being made). I sent her the money but when it didn't come fast enough she started harassing and threatening me. :roll: I wouldn't want her wearing our gear anyway.


Funny. That's not even the one I was thinking of.


weird, which one were you thinking of?!


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