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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Tisha » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:11 am

So sad.

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby rambo999 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:04 pm

Boucher's mom said in the Star artile that he has done 6 marathons.
How come no race information stats on him in sportstats.ca? Unless he did his races outside of Canada.

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Habs4ever » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:10 pm

rambo999 wrote:Boucher's mom said in the Star artile that he has done 6 marathons.
How come no race information stats on him in sportstats.ca? Unless he did his races outside of Canada.

Not every race uses sportstats.ca
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby QuickChick » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:16 pm

I stalked him too on RoadRaceResults.com and didn't find anything. Maybe he did US/Int'l marathons.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Joe Dwarf » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:24 pm

Habs4ever wrote:
rambo999 wrote:Boucher's mom said in the Star artile that he has done 6 marathons.
How come no race information stats on him in sportstats.ca? Unless he did his races outside of Canada.

Not every race uses sportstats.ca
I've done 6 marathons and I doubt my name is there.
+1, just searched myself and only found one marathon and one half. The half was from the 2013 Sask Marathon, but my other 3 times from previous years are not in there.

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Darth Tater » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:27 pm

Habs4ever wrote:
rambo999 wrote:Boucher's mom said in the Star artile that he has done 6 marathons.
How come no race information stats on him in sportstats.ca? Unless he did his races outside of Canada.

Not every race uses sportstats.ca
I've done 6 marathons and I doubt my name is there.

You have 3 results - Manitoba Marathon 2012 (half), Vancouver Marathon 2011 and 2012.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby La » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:30 pm

Couldn't find him on Athlinks, either.

But you know mothers... they think a road race of any distance is a "marathon." ;) :lol:
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Sandra » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:50 pm

Apparantly he ran in some of the 5Peaks races.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby purdy65 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:56 pm

I have him on sportstats in the 2011 Good Life half, and a few 5 peaks trail races. Very dated though.

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Teacher missing after run

Postby BJH » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:58 pm

I checked marathonguide.com

There's a 49 year old Jeffrey Boucher in the 2010 Chicago Marathon results. That matches up.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Jogger Barbie » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:41 pm

La wrote:But you know mothers... they think a road race of any distance is a "marathon." ;) :lol:

Plus, I don't think my husband (who has been at every single one of my races, either racing or spectating) could tell you how many marathons I've run. Never mind my mother.

One thing that makes me think that he may have simply "disappeared himself" is this sequence of events:

1) He goes for a run Sunday night, and is gone longer than usual, to the point that his daughter posts something on Twitter. I think it was maybe about 3 hours in total that he was away from the house?

2) He is gone the next morning when the rest of the household wakes up, and it is assumed that he went for his usual 6:00 a.m. run.

Even some of the most hardcore runners I know don't typically follow a long run in the evening with an early run in the morning. Even if the early run was "only" about 10 km. And especially not in the middle of winter when it's cold and the regular running paths are icy. It would not surprise me to learn that he was away longer than planned on Sunday night because he was wrapping up the final details for his Monday morning departure.

Unfortunately, this does not preclude the idea that his final destination may have been the lake, as has been proposed. :(
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Robinandamelia » Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:32 pm

Jogger Barbie wrote:
La wrote:But you know mothers... they think a road race of any distance is a "marathon." ;) :lol:

Plus, I don't think my husband (who has been at every single one of my races, either racing or spectating) could tell you how many marathons I've run. Never mind my mother.

One thing that makes me think that he may have simply "disappeared himself" is this sequence of events:

1) He goes for a run Sunday night, and is gone longer than usual, to the point that his daughter posts something on Twitter. I think it was maybe about 3 hours in total that he was away from the house?

2) He is gone the next morning when the rest of the household wakes up, and it is assumed that he went for his usual 6:00 a.m. run.

Even some of the most hardcore runners I know don't typically follow a long run in the evening with an early run in the morning. Even if the early run was "only" about 10 km. And especially not in the middle of winter when it's cold and the regular running paths are icy. It would not surprise me to learn that he was away longer than planned on Sunday night because he was wrapping up the final details for his Monday morning departure.

Unfortunately, this does not preclude the idea that his final destination may have been the lake, as has been proposed. :(


Unless he never really did come home on Sunday night and they changed the story because they didn't report him missing until the next day? Something is off for sure. I can't imagine walking away from your life with nothing though. No money, no ID, no vehicle, nothing.

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby jgore » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:12 pm

Robinandamelia wrote:
Jogger Barbie wrote:
La wrote:But you know mothers... they think a road race of any distance is a "marathon." ;) :lol:

Plus, I don't think my husband (who has been at every single one of my races, either racing or spectating) could tell you how many marathons I've run. Never mind my mother.

One thing that makes me think that he may have simply "disappeared himself" is this sequence of events:

1) He goes for a run Sunday night, and is gone longer than usual, to the point that his daughter posts something on Twitter. I think it was maybe about 3 hours in total that he was away from the house?

2) He is gone the next morning when the rest of the household wakes up, and it is assumed that he went for his usual 6:00 a.m. run.

Even some of the most hardcore runners I know don't typically follow a long run in the evening with an early run in the morning. Even if the early run was "only" about 10 km. And especially not in the middle of winter when it's cold and the regular running paths are icy. It would not surprise me to learn that he was away longer than planned on Sunday night because he was wrapping up the final details for his Monday morning departure.

Unfortunately, this does not preclude the idea that his final destination may have been the lake, as has been proposed. :(


Unless he never really did come home on Sunday night and they changed the story because they didn't report him missing until the next day? Something is off for sure. I can't imagine walking away from your life with nothing though. No money, no ID, no vehicle, nothing.


If he did just walk away, who knows how long he was planning it? Fake ID is not hard to get, set up a bank account using the fake ID... It's all just idle speculation.

One former friend just walked away from his life, though he at least had the decency to leave a note and gave her the house, the place in Florida, and all but a minimal amount of money. The only thing he took was their old car. I've not talked to him since. I don't understand it.

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Pat Menzies » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:23 pm

The reports keep mentioning that he is known to cover up to 15 kilometers in an hour. That information likely made the original search far wider than necessary.
Hardly any person does 15km at that rate unless they are elite or doing a time trial.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Robinandamelia » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:55 pm

CBC News wrote an article today "How to Disappear without a Trace"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/jeffrey-b ... 93?cmp=rss

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby La » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:27 pm

That was an interesting read. I also thought of the Miriam Makhniashvili case when I heard about this one. If I had to put money on it, I'd say that he took his own life in a place they haven't checked yet, or in a way that would make it hard/impossible to find his body. Not everyone leaves a suicide note (and I'm sure there's a whole psychological assessment of the type of person who does vs. those who don't).
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby QuickChick » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:38 pm

I am reading Dan Brown's new book "Inferno" and in it, a company exists to help people disappear, among other things. He has changed the name of the company, but I found this online. It probably would be easier than we'd think to disappear. Still though... A teacher's pension (fairly comfortable and secure retirement) would be tough to just walk away from.


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Postby turd ferguson » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:09 pm

La wrote:That was an interesting read. I also thought of the Miriam Makhniashvili case when I heard about this one. If I had to put money on it, I'd say that he took his own life in a place they haven't checked yet, or in a way that would make it hard/impossible to find his body. Not everyone leaves a suicide note (and I'm sure there's a whole psychological assessment of the type of person who does vs. those who don't).


I'd agree with you on this.

Interesting - I hadn't thought of that case in a while - I googled it and had no idea she'd been found.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Jo-Jo » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:52 pm

turd ferguson wrote:
La wrote:That was an interesting read. I also thought of the Miriam Makhniashvili case when I heard about this one. If I had to put money on it, I'd say that he took his own life in a place they haven't checked yet, or in a way that would make it hard/impossible to find his body. Not everyone leaves a suicide note (and I'm sure there's a whole psychological assessment of the type of person who does vs. those who don't).


I'd agree with you on this.

Interesting - I hadn't thought of that case in a while - I googled it and had no idea she'd been found.


I too agree with La on this.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

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turd ferguson wrote:
La wrote:That was an interesting read. I also thought of the Miriam Makhniashvili case when I heard about this one. If I had to put money on it, I'd say that he took his own life in a place they haven't checked yet, or in a way that would make it hard/impossible to find his body. Not everyone leaves a suicide note (and I'm sure there's a whole psychological assessment of the type of person who does vs. those who don't).


I'd agree with you on this.

Interesting - I hadn't thought of that case in a while - I googled it and had no idea she'd been found.


That case really highlights the impact on the family... the father was under a cloud of suspicion, then eventually lost it and stabbed three people. He was still in prison while his daughter was being buried.

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby n_fraser » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:32 am

Two things about this make me sad:
- if he had an accident running, it is something that very easily could happen to myself or any of us
- if he disappeared, it makes me sad that he may not have had anyone to talk to about his problems

I hope if something happened to him, he is found soon.

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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby QuickChick » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:41 am

I completely agree, and I also think it's horribly sad that someone with such a "good" life on the outside (seemingly close family, good job, good health) could possibly be so sad on the inside if he disappeared or took his life.
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Postby Jogger Barbie » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:29 am

QuickChick wrote:I completely agree, and I also think it's horribly sad that someone with such a "good" life on the outside (seemingly close family, good job, good health) could possibly be so sad on the inside if he disappeared or took his life.

Of course, there is also the possibility that he had a secret life (i.e.: another relationship), and he left the life we've been reading about for that. It sounds farfetched but it happens.

I wonder if we'll ever know. And add me to the list that followed the Miriam Makhniashvili case and was stunned at the news that her remains had been found such a long time after she disappeared.
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Re: Teacher missing after run

Postby Tisha » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:00 pm

n_fraser wrote:Two things about this make me sad:
- if he had an accident running, it is something that very easily could happen to myself or any of us
- if he disappeared, it makes me sad that he may not have had anyone to talk to about his problems

I hope if something happened to him, he is found soon.

You've put into words what I feel about this story.


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