July Mileage Challenge!

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Ironboy » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:54 pm

1Ironatatime wrote:
turd ferguson wrote:Also, wouldn't it be less of a time commitment than, say, ironman training?

Yes. 8)



And you'll notice I'm also not training for an Ironman! ;)

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby daddy_runner » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:30 pm

My highest ever has been 357km last May. I've got a 50 miler in late July so I'll have to figure out how to taper. Oh what the heck... If I have a goal, I don't necessarily have to meet it do I? :wink:

Mileage Goals - Run (in km)

erinmcd: 300+ or more than McShame
fe.sweetpea (representing the low-mileage, scheduled runners): 103KM
Joe Dwarf: 200
Kristen: 400 (yeah, maybe the 500 is for another month)
mas_runner: 201
mcshame: 300+ or more than erinmcd
OrleansRunner1962: ?
ultraslacker: 300
HCmD: 300K+ (pretty well what I would be aiming to run, in my Chicago Marathon training)
Justme: 200 and that will be challenge for me!
dale_nesbitt: 400 (or more than Kristen :P )
Plan for 2017:
END-SURE 25k...done! 2:30:23
Spruce Woods Ultra volunteering...done!
Kettle Moraine 100
Western States 100 crewing
Falcon Fatass 50k
Superior 100

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:36 pm

Mileage Goals - Run (in km)

erinmcd: 300+ or more than McShame
fe.sweetpea (representing the low-mileage, scheduled runners): 103KM
Joe Dwarf: 200
Kristen: 400 or more than Dale! :twisted:
mas_runner: 201
mcshame: 300+ or more than erinmcd
OrleansRunner1962: ?
ultraslacker: 300
HCmD: 300K+ (pretty well what I would be aiming to run, in my Chicago Marathon training)
Justme: 200 and that will be challenge for me!
dale_nesbitt: 400 (or more than Kristen :P )

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby daddy_runner » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:47 pm

Kristen wrote:Kristen: 400 or more than Dale! :twisted:
dale_nesbitt: 400 (or more than Kristen :P )


I've got everything planned out to get 400km in including my taper, race, and recovery. :P And with plenty of wiggle room to do a bit more. :twisted:
Plan for 2017:
END-SURE 25k...done! 2:30:23
Spruce Woods Ultra volunteering...done!
Kettle Moraine 100
Western States 100 crewing
Falcon Fatass 50k
Superior 100

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby ultraslacker » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:55 pm

dale_nesbitt wrote:
Kristen wrote:Kristen: 400 or more than Dale! :twisted:
dale_nesbitt: 400 (or more than Kristen :P )


I've got everything planned out to get 400km in including my taper, race, and recovery. :P And with plenty of wiggle room to do a bit more. :twisted:


I'd love to see that plan, since my race is the same distance but I'm aiming for 300k.... how are you getting so much more?!
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:37 am

ultraslacker wrote:
dale_nesbitt wrote:
I've got everything planned out to get 400km in including my taper, race, and recovery. :P And with plenty of wiggle room to do a bit more. :twisted:


I'd love to see that plan, since my race is the same distance but I'm aiming for 300k.... how are you getting so much more?!


I'd like to see both of your plans! Hypothetically speaking, if a person were considering an ultra:

- How many years of running experience (and racing) is first advisable?
- How much of a base (let's say in the year leading up) is recommended?
- Is starting with a 50K the way to go (safely assuming we are not all Scott Jurek)?

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby daddy_runner » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:43 am

Kristen wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:
dale_nesbitt wrote:
I've got everything planned out to get 400km in including my taper, race, and recovery. :P And with plenty of wiggle room to do a bit more. :twisted:


I'd love to see that plan, since my race is the same distance but I'm aiming for 300k.... how are you getting so much more?!


I'd like to see both of your plans! Hypothetically speaking, if a person were considering an ultra:

- How many years of running experience (and racing) is first advisable?
- How much of a base (let's say in the year leading up) is recommended?
- Is starting with a 50K the way to go (safely assuming we are not all Scott Jurek)?


- I've got just as much running experience as you do. I think it's more of an attitude required on race day.
- I ran for 12 hours last year on a ridiculously small base, averaging around 22 miles a week. Obviously, more would be better.
- Scott Jurek actually started off with a 50 miler (the same race I'm doing in July!)

Oh yeah, I'm not going to let you in on my super-secret training plan. I'm not going to show the enemy my marching orders! :wink: ultraslacker, I'll send you a PM.
Plan for 2017:
END-SURE 25k...done! 2:30:23
Spruce Woods Ultra volunteering...done!
Kettle Moraine 100
Western States 100 crewing
Falcon Fatass 50k
Superior 100

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Darth Tater » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:49 am

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mcshame vs. erinmcd
Kristen vs. dale_nesbitt
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby HCcD » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:56 am

Darth Tater wrote:Image

mcshame vs. erinmcd
Kristen vs. dale_nesbitt


My money is on Uri, err Kristen ... :shock: :lol: :wink:

Odds-on favorite is Erin, just because he has the advantage of running after Mcshame posts is daily runs ... :shifty: :wink:

then again, I always love a shallonge !!!! :shifty: :twisted: :twisted: :wink:
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Spirit Unleashed » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:02 am

Darth Tater wrote:Image


The smiley is way way funny! like! :D
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby erinmcd » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:10 am

HCmD wrote:
Darth Tater wrote:Image

mcshame vs. erinmcd
Kristen vs. dale_nesbitt


My money is on Uri, err Kristen ... :shock: :lol: :wink:

Odds-on favorite is Erin, just because he has the advantage of running after Mcshame posts is daily runs ... :shifty: :wink:

then again, I always love a shallonge !!!! :shifty: :twisted: :twisted: :wink:

No advantage for me on that one- I roll out of bed and am on the road by 5:15am, so McShame and I are out running at the same time.
My big secret weapon is my mother-in-law :twisted: . We're spending a week there in July, so I'll be doing some pretty serious "sanity runs." As in "if I don't get out of this house I am going to go insane!"
Keep on rolling, just a mile to go. Keep on rolling my old buddy, you're moving much too slow.

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby mcshame » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:13 am

He also has my plan....A mother-in-law is indeed a secret weapon.

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby HCcD » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:13 am

erinmcd wrote:
HCmD wrote:
Darth Tater wrote:Image

mcshame vs. erinmcd
Kristen vs. dale_nesbitt


My money is on Uri, err Kristen ... :shock: :lol: :wink:

Odds-on favorite is Erin, just because he has the advantage of running after Mcshame posts is daily runs ... :shifty: :wink:

then again, I always love a shallonge !!!! :shifty: :twisted: :twisted: :wink:

No advantage for me on that one- I roll out of bed and am on the road by 5:15am, so McShame and I are out running at the same time.
My big secret weapon is my mother-in-law :twisted: . We're spending a week there in July, so I'll be doing some pretty serious "sanity runs." As in "if I don't get out of this house I am going to go insane!"


:lol: :lol: :lol:

And, if either your MIL or DW sees this ... we may be calling you Run Forest Run or RIP, ERIN ... :shock: :wink:
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:22 am

dale_nesbitt wrote:Scott Jurek actually started off with a 50 miler (the same race I'm doing in July!)

I knew you'd catch that. :wink:

Oh yeah, I'm not going to let you in on my super-secret training plan. I'm not going to show the enemy my marching orders! :wink: ultraslacker, I'll send you a PM.

:lol:

Well, I'm not sharing mine either. :P (cr@p! I'd better get a plan!)

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby HCcD » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:25 am

Kristen wrote:
dale_nesbitt wrote:Scott Jurek actually started off with a 50 miler (the same race I'm doing in July!)

I knew you'd catch that. :wink:

Oh yeah, I'm not going to let you in on my super-secret training plan. I'm not going to show the enemy my marching orders! :wink: ultraslacker, I'll send you a PM.

:lol:

Well, I'm not sharing mine either. :P (cr@p! I'd better get a plan!)


Your Plan seemed so simple and straight forward, Kristen ... Run Lots ... :wink: :shifty:
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby ultraslacker » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:26 am

Kristen: As was said above, ultras are more about the mindset than about the mileage. You already have the mileage. What you have to have is the mindset. You in particular would need to let go of your need to over-analyze everything. ;) Just run. Find a race that excites you and run it. It's that simple.
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:34 am

ultraslacker wrote:Kristen: As was said above, ultras are more about the mindset than about the mileage. You already have the mileage. What you have to have is the mindset. You in particular would need to let go of your need to over-analyze everything. ;) Just run. Find a race that excites you and run it. It's that simple.


:lol: Have I ever mentioned how much I appreciate your candor? (and mindset?) :lol: :D :wink:

(sadly, there is no NOT over-analyzing stuff in my case, but I'm trying *really hard* to keep it in check) :lol:

Okay, back to the mindset thing: I'm super curious about this. What makes it possible for ultra runners to do what they do?

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Spirit Unleashed » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:39 am

ultraslacker wrote:Kristen: As was said above, ultras are more about the mindset than about the mileage. You already have the mileage. What you have to have is the mindset. You in particular would need to let go of your need to over-analyze everything. ;) Just run. Find a race that excites you and run it. It's that simple.

I agree with this. I did not train to run an 80 mile race. I trained to re-fuel and keep going. In the middle of the race, its one foot at a time or one gel per hour or pee now. thats about it.
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:48 am

ultra spirit wrote:I agree with this. I did not train to run an 80 mile race. I trained to re-fuel and keep going. In the middle of the race, its one foot at a time or one gel per hour or pee now. thats about it.

Okay, so just lots of running in general and be smart about fuel. Now, here's the trick: I am boycotting gels. *blech* Enough of the "faux food and abnormally-coloured liquid fuel" - yuck! I'm thinking hydration pack with water, baked potatoes, dried fruit, and lots of tissue sounds about right.

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:51 am

PS - Dale, it is SO on. :twisted:

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby RA. » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:00 am

I'm pondering a challenging goal for me... I'd like to aim for 150, as that's 5k a day. Looking at it THAT way, it seems easily doable.
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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:18 am

RA wrote:I'm pondering a challenging goal for me... I'd like to aim for 150, as that's 5k a day. Looking at it THAT way, it seems easily doable.


Absolutely! :)

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Kristen » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:20 am

Mileage Goals - Run (in km)

dale_nesbitt: 400 (or more than Kristen :P )
erinmcd: 300+ or more than McShame
fe.sweetpea (representing the low-mileage, scheduled runners): 103KM
HCmD: 300K+ (pretty well what I would be aiming to run, in my Chicago Marathon training)
Joe Dwarf: 200
Justme: 200 and that will be challenge for me!
Kristen: 400 or more than Dale! :twisted:
mas_runner: 201
mcshame: 300+ or more than erinmcd
OrleansRunner1962: ?
RA: 150
ultraslacker: 300

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby daddy_runner » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:22 am

Kristen wrote:PS - Dale, it is SO on. :twisted:


:help:

Is it too late to fly the white flag? :shifty:

NOT! 8) :lol:
Plan for 2017:
END-SURE 25k...done! 2:30:23
Spruce Woods Ultra volunteering...done!
Kettle Moraine 100
Western States 100 crewing
Falcon Fatass 50k
Superior 100

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Re: July Mileage Challenge!

Postby Joe Dwarf » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:34 am

Kristen wrote:(sadly, there is no NOT over-analyzing stuff in my case, but I'm trying *really hard* to keep it in check) :lol:
Maybe you should just take the Jenn Shelton approach and show up at some random race, hung over and wearing a bikini. I'm thinking not much thinking goes into those decisions.


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