London Marathon

[Corpus Cani]

Men
1 Mutai, Emmanuel (KEN) 02:04:40
2 Lel, Martin (KEN) 02:05:45
3 Makau, Patrick (KEN) 02:05:45
4 Dos Santos, Marlison Gomes (BRA 02:06:34
5 Kebede, Tsegaye (ETH) 02:07:48


Women

1 Keitany, Mary (KEN) 02:19:19
2 Shobukhova, Liliya (RUS) 02:20:15
3 Kiplagat, Edna (KEN) 02:20:46
4 Bekele, Bezunesh (ETH 02:23:42
5 Baysa, Atsede (ETH) 02:23:50

IN other Marathon news today:
Madrid Marathon = 2:10
Vienna Marathon = 2:08
Zurich Marathon = 2:10
Belgrade Marathon = 2:14
Enschede Marathon 2.07.20


Was just thinking 2:07, 2:08 and 2:10 are the slow (way slow) marathons over the weekend.
Marathoning is really getting deep at the sub-2:10 level

[Jo-Jo]

WOW.
Some amazing times!!!

[constantgardener]

Are we ever going to see a 1:50 Marathon?

[Jwolf]

Are we ever going to see a 1:50 Marathon?

There are many people who think we aren't likely to see sub-2:00 in our lifetime.

[jamix]

Are we ever going to see a 1:50 Marathon?

Not before someone runs a HM in sub 55 minutes first, which will probably never happen.

[constantgardener]

Are we ever going to see a 1:50 Marathon?

Not before someone runs a HM in sub 55 minutes first, which will probably never happen.

They said the same about the 100m sprint a few yrs back, sub 10mins is all very common now. Also most elites don't do halves

[Jwolf]

Are we ever going to see a 1:50 Marathon?

Not before someone runs a HM in sub 55 minutes first, which will probably never happen.

They said the same about the 100m sprint a few yrs back, sub 10mins is all very common now. Also most elites don't do halves

Half-marathon world record wouldn't necessarily have to come first, and even so, 55 minutes wouldn't be an indicator of 1:50 marathon potential.

I can't see a 1:50 marathon for a LONG time.

[ROW]

Are we ever going to see a 1:50 Marathon?

Not before someone runs a HM in sub 55 minutes first, which will probably never happen.

They said the same about the 100m sprint a few yrs back, sub 10mins is all very common now. Also most elites don't do halves

Yeah they do...

Lets just worry about if there going to break the world record first instead of worrying about a sub 2 marathon. 2:04:40 is still 41 seconds off the world record.

[jamix]

I can't see a 1:50 marathon for a LONG time.

It won't ever. Given the comparison of the worlds best 10km runner Kenesia Bekel to that of the previous Geb (who as you know holds the 2:03:59 marathon WR), even a sub 2:03 is likely out of sight for some time.

[ian]

I can't see a 1:50 marathon for a LONG time.

It won't ever. Given the comparison of the worlds best 10km runner Kenesia Bekel to that of the previous Geb (who as you know holds the 2:03:59 marathon WR), even a sub 2:03 is likely out of sight for some time.

Also note that a 1:50 marathon would be a 26:04 10K pace, a little below the current WR. I'd be willing to believe a 2:02 marathon under current conditions (asphalt surfaces and seemingly effective drug testing), but even that might take my lifetime to see.

[HCcD]

Interesting that this topic should be coming up at this time ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12933932

[Jwolf]

I can't see a 1:50 marathon for a LONG time.

It won't ever. Given the comparison of the worlds best 10km runner Kenesia Bekel to that of the previous Geb (who as you know holds the 2:03:59 marathon WR), even a sub 2:03 is likely out of sight for some time.

Also note that a 1:50 marathon would be a 26:04 10K pace, a little below the current WR.

I didn't even think of that.

[Ironboy]

Some guys who are much smarter than I have analyzed this:

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2010/08 ... -when.html

and

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2008/10 ... athon.html

Very interesting read.

[Ironboy]

Some guys who are much smarter than I have analyzed this:

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2010/08 ... -when.html

and

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2008/10 ... athon.html

Very interesting read.

Forgot the best one!

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2010/09 ... ology.html

This one looks at the physiology that would be required to run a sub 2. Even more interesting read.

[SteveF]

Ahhh science. Conclusively inconclusive! I have come to my own conclusion that the records will be broken when they are broken. Many things were once thought not possible but have since been accomplished. It only takes one person to change everyones mind about what's possible. Didn't Bolt break an unbeatable record broken by Johnson?

[turd ferguson]

Ahhh science. Conclusively inconclusive! I have come to my own conclusion that the records will be broken when they are broken. Many things were once thought not possible but have since been accomplished. It only takes one person to change everyones mind about what's possible. Didn't Bolt break an unbeatable record broken by Johnson?

There are lots of unbreakable records out there. The experts say they can't be broken. Until they are. Then the experts will say they predicted it all along. The only record that's unbreakable is the rate of bad predictions by experts.

[SteveF]

Ahhh science. Conclusively inconclusive! I have come to my own conclusion that the records will be broken when they are broken. Many things were once thought not possible but have since been accomplished. It only takes one person to change everyones mind about what's possible. Didn't Bolt break an unbeatable record broken by Johnson?

There are lots of unbreakable records out there. The experts say they can't be broken. Until they are. Then the experts will say they predicted it all along. The only record that's unbreakable is the rate of bad predictions by experts.

Love it Turd!

[Corpus Cani]

In theory (this is purely hypothetical) if Kenisia Bekele at the top of his game was to run comparably from 10000m to marthon as Geoffrey Mutai then he would have clocked a 2.01low at Boston. Of course there are a whole host of reasons why he probably wouldn't have. The thing is Mutai, great runner that he is he is not an out and out freak among East African runners. 2.04++ is now the basic benchmark for the marathon.
These days nearly all the top marathons employ pacers. Most of these runners are around 2.05-06 and are looking for a good pay day. So they smash themselves up for 30-35kms to set up the race for the elite guys.
The African mentality is to run until you drop. So the elite bunch all hang at the designated pace until they are completely buggered. That is why you often see big gaps after the first few runners.
Fear of blowing up is not in the mindset of these guys.
Manny Mutai ran something like a 14m17s. 5k surge in London.
Geoff Mutai and Moses Mosop shook off their rivals with a sub 29 min 10k surge at Boston.
That sort of pace change up in such fast races suggests these guys are still some way off their physical limitations .