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Postby TheBman » Fri May 27, 2011 6:38 am

mytrilife wrote:
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So..............did you have a point to your question??????????????????????

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Ah forget it. I just had some thoughts on your methods of philanthropy... but I'm sure I'll just enrage the masses.


Ahhh....a turtle....hurl it then hide!!!! Typical!

You have an issue with my philantropy??? PM me ANYTIME!!!! Until then, get off your saddle and do some of your own!!!

BTW, now you know TWO people who have raised more than $25,000 for a cause!!! Nice to meet ya!!! :topic:

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby Ironboy » Fri May 27, 2011 6:43 am

You're wasting your time on this guy BMan.

His opinion is the only one of any value in the world. I suggest doing as I did and put him on your ignore list.

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby drghfx » Fri May 27, 2011 9:24 am

How bout them Blue Jays?
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Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby turd ferguson » Fri May 27, 2011 9:30 am

drghfx wrote:How bout them Blue Jays?


I think Bautista is juicing. Career high of 14 hr, then he hits 54. Open your eyes!!!
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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby Darth Tater » Fri May 27, 2011 9:40 am

turd ferguson wrote:
drghfx wrote:How bout them Blue Jays?


I think Bautista is juicing. Career high of 14 hr, then he hits 54. Open your eyes!!!

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby ultraslacker » Fri May 27, 2011 10:17 am

TheBman wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:I think we should make Lance Armstrong a banned topic, since every single time he comes up, people lose their heads. :lol:

Umm....Hol...thats like saying we should ban "NET" cuz, really, this is a RUNNING FORUM...aint gonna happen!!!

ultraslacker wrote: I question what he's really *done*. It's really easy to get people hyped up and put a pretty face on a cause and say that you're raising "awareness" (whatever that means), without asking the next question: "who is actually benefitting from this?"


Wow Holly....do you think LIVESTRONG would have gotten off the ground without a "voice" or "character" that would reach the masses like LA?

ultraslacker wrote: It's really easy to get people hyped up and put a pretty face on a cause and say that you're raising "awareness" (whatever that means), without asking the next question: "who is actually benefitting from this?"


:( I have taken offense to many things on this board over the years, but THIS takes the cake!!!!!!

Um...the "awareness" that I raise has saved lives...several of them. Once I began speaking out, I have had individuals who have personaly thanked me for speaking out about a topic, that (at the time) was a bit tabu, who went and got that lump they had check and treated BECAUSEOF THE AWARENESS I WAS RAISING!!!. THAT is what it means! I am not sure you realize how many peeps on RM raise awareness and funds, but pretty sure you have slapped them all up side the head.
It's cool that you have never really supported my cause, but all the others?? Shame on you.
Do you think "Team Diabetes" runners wear their race singets because they lik purple? No, it is because AWARENESS is also part of being on a team like that.

The definition of "awareness" is in the dictionary.....take a peek!

Sad this awesome thread has now turned into this crap (as usual). Back to DOPE and less charity/cause/ bashing!!!!

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby Mark.AU » Fri May 27, 2011 10:23 am

ultraslacker wrote:...raising "awareness" (whatever that means)


ultraslacker wrote:I was talking about Lance, not you.


Your first comment is very clearly a general comment, not about Lance, but about "raising awareness," the follow up "whatever that means" in parentheses makes that quite obvious.
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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby ultraslacker » Fri May 27, 2011 10:25 am

Mark. wrote:
ultraslacker wrote:...raising "awareness" (whatever that means)


ultraslacker wrote:I was talking about Lance, not you.


Your first comment is very clearly a general comment, not about Lance, but about "raising awareness," the follow up "whatever that means" in parentheses makes that quite obvious.


The first sentence in that paragraph mentions Lance.

Anyway, I'm clarifying: I was talking about Lance.
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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby TheBman » Fri May 27, 2011 10:26 am

ultraslacker wrote: It's really easy to get people hyped up and put a pretty face on a cause and say that you're raising "awareness" (whatever that means), without asking the next question: "who is actually benefitting from this?"


I think MILLIONS are, in Livestrongs case anyway.

Me, Lance, Team Whoever.....it's a insulting.

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby DougG » Fri May 27, 2011 10:56 am

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby Jo-Jo » Fri May 27, 2011 11:25 am

mytrilife wrote:
AirForceRunner wrote:Gosh BMan....don't bring yourself to this level. This guy is a trolling, and he's taken it to the sewer.

I never frequent the darksider forum, but stories of this have leaked outside of RM. That should tell you something about this guy. And I'm biting my tongue.


Trolling? I present facts widely available for those who choose to look for them. Which from what I can tell... is not many people here.

This is a discussion board and I'm one of the few that chooses to take an anti-Armstrong stance. For that I get bullied and berated and labeled bitter and angry.

That should tell you something about this board, and I'm biting my tongue... err.. fingers... since I'm typing.



Why do you post on RM...when it seems to me that over the past few years you seem to feel a fair bit of disdain for us.

I'm truly curious.

BTW...BMan...good job on the fundraising. :D

ETA: I haven't done enough of my own reading about doping in cycling to have an educated opinion of my own... :? :?
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Postby turd ferguson » Fri May 27, 2011 11:58 am

mytrilife wrote:

This is a discussion board and I'm one of the few that chooses to take an anti-Armstrong stance. For that I get bullied and berated and labeled bitter and angry.



No. You're getting berated for attacking other posters who disagree with you.

Disagreement is great. Its interesting. I love having my beliefs challenged.

But if you're going to make your point by saying other posters have no ethics, or whatever, that's different.
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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby trixiee » Fri May 27, 2011 12:25 pm

drghfx wrote:I got this off the Globe. It's from one of Lance's new lawyers. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/m ... le2035600/

Keker on Thursday criticized leaks of testimony to the media in the Armstrong case and called the investigation a waste of money.

“We know Novitzky and plan to prove that these are his repeated, illegal leaks aimed solely at destroying a true hero, not just in sports but in the fight against cancer,” he said. “That the government is spending tax money investigating long ago bike races in Europe is an outrage.”


Looks like his boy just brought cancer into the discussion of his cheating. I think that is pretty low.

BTW, I do care what others think. I like to hear both sides.


As do I!
Thanks for a thoughtful discussion of opinions!
I like that there hasn't been too much personal attacking going on!
I love, love, love a good debate!

ETA - I see the whole discussion has turned into a big mess, and people taking sides.

Time to lock the discussion mods?
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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby FishHog » Fri May 27, 2011 1:33 pm

TheBman wrote:Um...the "awareness" that I raise has saved lives...several of them. Once I began speaking out, I have had individuals who have personaly thanked me for speaking out about a topic, that (at the time) was a bit tabu, who went and got that lump they had check and treated BECAUSEOF THE AWARENESS I WAS RAISING!!!. .B


Bman, I thanked you at the time a few years ago, but I'll do it again. You can add me to that list of people who you finally motivated to get a lump in my left nut checked out. Can't say I enjoyed the process, it was embarassing and uncomfortable. Thank god it was nothing, but I never would have even had it checked if you didn't motivate me to do so.

Please don't let this thread belittle your efforts, as your a godsend in my mind and have made a difference in my life and my perspective on life.

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby Wu wei » Fri May 27, 2011 4:23 pm

I've been crazy busy today. No time to post.

Bman. I'll respond to you directly offline. I'm sure you have a contact email on your website somewhere.
I want to take the time to write my thoughts completely, and allow you to respond personally instead of in this thread.

I reminded myself of nature of debate today... it serves to further divide and entrench opinion instead of bringing consensus and understanding. So I will end my debate, and wait for the legal proceedings take their course. The charging documents will provide some interesting reading when the indictments are made.

If you felt personally attacked by me in any way in this thread, read the signature below my posts.
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Postby Corpus Cani » Fri May 27, 2011 10:42 pm

With regards the EPO issue I won't say on which side of the fence I sit. What's wrong with a bit of straight talking?
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Postby TheBman » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:21 pm

mytrilife wrote:I've been crazy busy today. No time to post.

Bman. I'll respond to you directly offline. I'm sure you have a contact email on your website somewhere.
I want to take the time to write my thoughts completely, and allow you to respond personally instead of in this thread.


For allll you RM'ers who have PM'd me asking about the impending PM (remember...MTL questioned our fundraising methods etc..)...after numerous requests, MTL has refused to elaborate on his accusations.
We stand by ou methods, our causes and our efforts to do some good in this world....perhaps MTL, whoever you really are, it is time for YOU to turn that frown upside down and enjoy what life has to offer...not just find a someone to kick in the nut to make you feel better!

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Postby Wu wei » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:27 pm

TheBman wrote: MTL has refused to elaborate on his accusations


FTR, I did no such thing.

Bman is trying to bully me to respond on his timeline through insulting PM's.
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Postby TheBman » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:30 pm

mytrilife wrote:
TheBman wrote: MTL has refused to elaborate on his accusations


FTR, I did no such thing.

Bman is trying to bully me to respond on his timeline through insulting PM's.



I have ALLLLL the time in the world.....


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Postby Wu wei » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:58 pm

Actually this pretty much sums up my thoughts:

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TheBman wrote:
mytrilife wrote:
TheBman wrote: MTL has refused to elaborate on his accusations


FTR, I did no such thing.

Bman is trying to bully me to respond on his timeline through insulting PM's.



I have ALLLLL the time in the world.....


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Postby turd ferguson » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:11 pm

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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby drghfx » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:44 pm

turd ferguson wrote:CONTADOR BUSTED AGAIN

I don't know French law but in most parts of Canada you need a bell on your bike to ride on the roads. I wonder if the French police let him off easy because of his celebrity.
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Postby turd ferguson » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:02 pm

drghfx wrote:
turd ferguson wrote:CONTADOR BUSTED AGAIN

I don't know French law but in most parts of Canada you need a bell on your bike to ride on the roads. I wonder if the French police let him off easy because of his celebrity.


He donated some reflectors to the ICU and they covered it up.
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Re: Another Rider Says Lance Armstrong Took EPO

Postby Sir Crashalot » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:36 am

drghfx wrote:in most parts of Canada you need a bell on your bike to ride on the roads

Seriously??!?!?
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