Report: Lance considering confession

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:11 am

... "so that he can resume his sporting career in running and triathlon"...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/is-lanc ... confession

I welcome a confession. Not sure I welcome a return to triathlon... every strong performance would be under the same old cloud of suspicion.

Edit: kind of reminds me of this one:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/lance- ... but,17973/
:lol:

jono

DougG · Postby **DougG** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:33 am

It won't make any difference to me, and won't change my opinion.

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:13 am

Me either ... too late to be of much help for the sport. Would finally put an end to the sideshow though.

Except for the UCIs role... that could still get interesting.

jono

ian · Postby **ian** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:03 pm

Gutsy move if he does it, especially because it practically guarantees he'll be out many millions in lawsuits from various tabloids, former sponsors, and maybe even other riders. I'd be particularly interested if he were to provide some details on how it all went down, perhaps helping to take down some of the corrupt elements higher up in the sport. If the current rules allow for a return to competitive triathlon after some suspension period, I see no reason why that avenue shouldn't also be available to LA.

fstreet · Postby **fstreet** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:34 pm

I think it is a gutless move.

Get his lawyer to phone in a trial balloon that he "might" confess but he is only doing it so he can resume his athletic career so, you see, Lance didn't really do it, he's just thinking about admitting to it, and if he does admit to it it's only to resume his career because he didn't really do it, he's simply admitting to it so he can move on....

Jwolf · Postby **Jwolf** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:33 pm

"I was able to pull off this charade for a long time, but now nobody believes me."

fingerboy · Postby **fingerboy** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:32 pm

Cheaters should be banned for life. Don't want him doing anything. Not even if prize money is gone from it, which it wouldn't be. He's never welcome in my books. Stay home Lance. Go live in your own neverland.

I think this bs artist should be taken to the cleaners. Every person who tried to name him and lost and were destroyed deserves restitution. Seriously. We need to go medieval on his ass. Get out the rack.

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:31 pm

fingerboy wrote:Cheaters should be banned for life. Don't want him doing anything. Not even if prize money is gone from it, which it wouldn't be. He's never welcome in my books. Stay home Lance. Go live in your own neverland.

I think this bs artist should be taken to the cleaners. Every person who tried to name him and lost and were destroyed deserves restitution. Seriously. We need to go medieval on his ass. Get out the rack.

+1! Unless I can +2 or +10000, then that.

jono

drghfx · Postby **drghfx** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:48 pm

Ha Ha, so my understanding is that the only way he'll get any of his sanctions reduced after confessing is if he rats out other people. Priceless! Of course, then he'd be a self-confessed drug cheat and liar so who would believe any of his claims unless there was actually evidence to support his accusations? I don't think Bruneel has ever failed a drug test has he? Oh, the irony in all of this!

Pat Menzies · Postby **Pat Menzies** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:25 am

Of course he would get sanctions reduced and his ban reduced or lifted. Aren't reduced sentences pretty normal when criminals make deals?
I'm surprised people on here wouldn't want him re-instated. Wouldn't you like to beat him in a race?

drghfx · Postby **drghfx** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:54 am

Pat Menzies wrote:Of course he would get sanctions reduced and his ban reduced or lifted. Aren't reduced sentences pretty normal when criminals make deals?
I'm surprised people on here wouldn't want him re-instated. Wouldn't you like to beat him in a race?

Sorry, I don't see why anyone who demonstrated such an absolute lack of sportsmanship or even ethical behaviour to protect his cheating and lying should ever be allowed to participate in any organized sporting event. He is the epitome of everything wrong in professional sports. He makes Barry Bonds look like an angel.

Dstew · Postby **Dstew** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:15 pm

What I said on November 15, 2012:

I predict he does admit this but some time in the future. He is a smart man and as saying goes, no one ever lost money under estimating the intelligence of the American public. People have already start to stop venting and ranting against him. So once all the furor has died down, he writes a book and admits to the drugs but how he was a victim of a corrupt system. He is sorry the way he acted but once he saw how much cancer research and awareness was helped by his image, he did everything to protect that image but he now knows that was wrong. He gets paid millions, he is forgiven after his heart felt and well paying book tour with a portion of the proceeds going to cancer research. the fallen hero has been redeemed.

It is the American PR script. Do something bad, admit that you did it, show remorse and be forgiven and move forward. Very little risk as the delay may be in negotiating "plea bargains" with the relevant parties and then there will be the book and appearance deals worth millions at the very least. The redeemed sinner comes full circle with invitations to events that need or feel they need the presence of Lance for their event. Again, all to script. The only good thing as with the Baseball Hall of Fall shows is that the "professional" part of his career is forever dead and the error of his ways will not be erased.

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:38 pm

Doesn't always go to script. See: Landis. Cheating is a bit different than personal issues/failings.

jono

Pat Menzies · Postby **Pat Menzies** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:07 pm

Isn't cheating a personal issue and failing?

jamix · Postby **jamix** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:03 pm

I read Hamilton's book "The Secret Race", and I agree LA was/is a jerk(ish) guy.

With that said, I think many (including me) hopes he can do triathlons again. For me, its not about whether he deserves it and I don't think one should think about whether or no LA deserves it. The fact is a lot of people will be interested to watch. Personally I'm interested to see him and to see whether or not he'll be able to come back and perform at the same level??

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:43 am

Pat Menzies wrote:Isn't cheating a personal issue and failing?

Fair enough. I meant cheating is different from personal issues and failings that don't relate to the sport.

jono

Wu wei · Postby **Wu wei** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:45 pm

We need Lance racing again or we will forget cancer exists!

Dstew · Postby **Dstew** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:41 pm

Wu wei wrote:We need Lance racing again or we will forget cancer exists!

The cancer ship has sailed. Lance is now a novelty like celebrity boxing or a dunk tank. Pay your money to see if you can beat the once great Lance Armstrong. And hell, if you lose, you got a built in excuse that he was doped up and you were clean. I could care less myself but I suspect that there are more than enough who would enter a race just to compete or even be close to Mr. Armstrong.

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:28 pm

Oprah wins!

http://www.oprah.com/pressroom/Lance-Ar ... xt-Chapter

Dstew · Postby **Dstew** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:14 am

jonovision_man wrote:Oprah wins!

http://www.oprah.com/pressroom/Lance-Ar ... xt-Chapter

At the end of the interview, Oprah will tell Lance to look under his seat and he will find a yellow jersey. Hard hitting and no holds bar and Oprah go together in my mind. What, the two drunk women not available?

Wu wei · Postby **Wu wei** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:56 am

Dstew wrote:
jonovision_man wrote:Oprah wins!

http://www.oprah.com/pressroom/Lance-Ar ... xt-Chapter

At the end of the interview, Oprah will tell Lance to look under his seat and he will find a yellow jersey. Hard hitting and no holds bar and Oprah go together in my mind. What, the two drunk women not available?

Edit: Heard this morning that Bruyneel is going to tell-all (or at least enough). I guess this just pre-empts that. Full on confession? I duno... Lance is too much a fighter, but we'll see.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id= ... 8n&tag=api

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:02 am

Dstew wrote:
jonovision_man wrote:Oprah wins!

http://www.oprah.com/pressroom/Lance-Ar ... xt-Chapter

At the end of the interview, Oprah will tell Lance to look under his seat and he will find a yellow jersey. Hard hitting and no holds bar and Oprah go together in my mind. What, the two drunk women not available?

You get a yellow jersey!
You get a yellow jersey!
You get a yellow jersey!
You get a yellow jersey!

:dance:

jono

jonovision_man · Postby **jonovision_man** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:08 am

Wu wei wrote:Edit: Heard this morning that Bruyneel is going to tell-all (or at least enough). I guess this just pre-empts that. Full on confession? I duno... Lance is too much a fighter, but we'll see.

Is Bruyneel going to tell any more than everyone else has already told?

Lance is a bit like that Fat Tony from the Simpsons

Chief Wiggum: You wouldn't happen to know anything about a cigarette truck that was hijacked outside of town, would you?
Fat Tony: What's a truck?
Chief Wiggum: Don't play dumb with me!

Oprah: You wouldn't happen to know anything about doping in the US Postal cycling team, would you?
Lance: What's cycling?

jono

ian · Postby **ian** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:32 am

jonovision_man wrote:Lance is a bit like that Fat Tony from the Simpsons

Chief Wiggum: You wouldn't happen to know anything about a cigarette truck that was hijacked outside of town, would you?
Fat Tony: What's a truck?
Chief Wiggum: Don't play dumb with me!

and don't forget the rationalizations...

Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?
Fat Tony: Bart, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
Bart: No.
Fat Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Uh uh.
Fat Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like... cigarettes?
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Fat Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell, no.

Seriously, though, I'm hoping that something in these interviews/confessions will be useful to shed more light on what really happened, to identify others (e.g., bribe-takers) who also need to be held to account, and to suggest measures that will reduce this sort of behavior in the future.

La · Postby La » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:54 am

ian wrote:Seriously, though, I'm hoping that something in these interviews/confessions will be useful to shed more light on what really happened, to identify others (e.g., bribe-takers) who also need to be held to account, and to suggest measures that will reduce this sort of behavior in the future.

I'm worried that in confessing he will deflect the issue by blaming the European cycling culture (I was just doing what everyone else was doing, just better), rather than taking personal responsibility. I think the UCI is also to blame.

I'll be interested in watching the interview. January 17 at 9PM ET.