**** pain
**** pain
I ran on the sidewalk for 2 minutes today and now my shins are hurting. It's not a strong pain but it does hurt when I put pressure on my legs (like jumping up and down or something). It doesn't usually hurt when I do my normal jogs on turf but the second I run on pavement it hurts. I'm sure it will heal in like 24 hours but I'm afraid it's going to happen again.
I don't want to be stuck running on turf forever so what do I do about it? Lighter landings on hard surfaces maybe?
I don't want to be stuck running on turf forever so what do I do about it? Lighter landings on hard surfaces maybe?
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Re: **** pain
The title of this post is supposed to be SHIN PAIN but I think I accidentially typed S-H-I-T. Wouldn't be the first time. LOL
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Re: **** pain
REST!!!!
Sorry for yelling, but, I can't emphasize this enough. STOP. Rest until it feels better and DO NOT RUN until it doesn't hurt at ALL when you walk, hop, poke, prod, etc etc. In fact, wait until it does NOT hurt, and add an extra day or two. If it hurts like that again the second you run even after resting, see your doc - that's NOT normal shinsplints.
Take it from someone who thought it was 'just' muscle aches, then 'just' shin splints, then 'just' tendonitis, and ended up running herself into a stress fracture. I haven't run since the first week of March, and I'm FINALLY now being cleared for 3 minutes (yes, THREE minutes only!!) of running today. And for stress fractures, that's considered a 'quick' recovery.
It is not normal to feel pain like you describe during the run or within (and this is what most people don't know) 24 hours AFTER the run. If you do, it's a sign that something needs to rest and/or heal up.
Cross training is every runner's friend. Do something intense but non impact instead, like swimming, pool running/aquajogging, spinning (don't do standing stuff), or cycling. Trust me, you do not want to end up where I did. If you don't feel 100% better with a week of rest, see your doc.
Sorry for yelling, but, I can't emphasize this enough. STOP. Rest until it feels better and DO NOT RUN until it doesn't hurt at ALL when you walk, hop, poke, prod, etc etc. In fact, wait until it does NOT hurt, and add an extra day or two. If it hurts like that again the second you run even after resting, see your doc - that's NOT normal shinsplints.
Take it from someone who thought it was 'just' muscle aches, then 'just' shin splints, then 'just' tendonitis, and ended up running herself into a stress fracture. I haven't run since the first week of March, and I'm FINALLY now being cleared for 3 minutes (yes, THREE minutes only!!) of running today. And for stress fractures, that's considered a 'quick' recovery.
It is not normal to feel pain like you describe during the run or within (and this is what most people don't know) 24 hours AFTER the run. If you do, it's a sign that something needs to rest and/or heal up.
Cross training is every runner's friend. Do something intense but non impact instead, like swimming, pool running/aquajogging, spinning (don't do standing stuff), or cycling. Trust me, you do not want to end up where I did. If you don't feel 100% better with a week of rest, see your doc.
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Re: **** pain
I think i read elsewhere that you don''t have proper training shoes? Is that still the case?
Re: Shin pain
codePoet wrote:The title of this post is supposed to be SHIN PAIN but I think I accidentially typed S-H-I-T. Wouldn't be the first time. LOL
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La wrote:codePoet wrote:The title of this post is supposed to be SHIN PAIN but I think I accidentially typed S-H-I-T. Wouldn't be the first time. LOL
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Re: **** pain
My shins feel much better this morning. I'm pretty sure I just went a little overboard with the running yesterday. I do have proper shoes now but I was FULL OUT running, the kind where your feet are practically slapping the ground. I'll just stick to my usual light jogging this week and see if the pain returns or not.
Is shin pain supposed to improve after you "get in shape"? I've been leading a sedentary lifestyle for 2 years prior to my fitness program and I read that your bones weaken as a result.
Is shin pain supposed to improve after you "get in shape"? I've been leading a sedentary lifestyle for 2 years prior to my fitness program and I read that your bones weaken as a result.
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Re: **** pain
codePoet wrote:My shins feel much better this morning. I'm pretty sure I just went a little overboard with the running yesterday. I do have proper shoes now but I was FULL OUT running, the kind where your feet are practically slapping the ground. I'll just stick to my usual light jogging this week and see if the pain returns or not.
Is shin pain supposed to improve after you "get in shape"? I've been leading a sedentary lifestyle for 2 years prior to my fitness program and I read that your bones weaken as a result.
Slow down. Speedwork is the most advanced form of training, and even in a full training program you do very little of it. It's the easiest way to hurt yourself, especially if you don't have a big enough running base for it. And, your feet should NEVER slap the ground - if they are, that means you need to work on soft landings, better form and carriage, or you're going to hurt yourself.
The shin muscles WILL get stronger as you run more, but, shin pain like you describe is not normal. Especially if the pain continues after you run, during normal everyday activity, or worsens as you run - those are stress fracture symptoms.
Basically, your cardio and muscular systems will improve FAR faster than your bones will adapt. Often the bone is the weak link, and the most likely to give way, even for experienced runners. There's a reason for the 10% rule, and it's not because your muscles and cardio can't improve faster, it's because bone can't adapt to more than 10% (and that's a MAX limit, not a min!!!) of intensity OR distance over any given period of time. So, in other words, don't ever increase more than 10% in time/intensity/distance per week......aka, don't increase 10% in more than ONE of those elements.
Take it easy, and you'll stay healthy!
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Re: **** pain
I've seen quite a number of newbie runners, and even veteran runners when moving up to a new distance for the first time, fall under one of following categories, when experiencing shinsplints and/or similar symptoms ... that is, they may be running in the wrong shoe (type, category, etc.) and/or the "terrible Toos" ... too much, too soon, too fast .... and/or both ...
I have found that stretching is always a good thing, and having access to a professional RMT / ART practioner does wonders, in both preventing and recovery ...
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Re: **** pain
codePoet wrote:My shins feel much better this morning. I'm pretty sure I just went a little overboard with the running yesterday. I do have proper shoes now but I was FULL OUT running, the kind where your feet are practically slapping the ground. I'll just stick to my usual light jogging this week and see if the pain returns or not.
Is shin pain supposed to improve after you "get in shape"? I've been leading a sedentary lifestyle for 2 years prior to my fitness program and I read that your bones weaken as a result.
The muscles of your lower leg are wrapped in a fascial covering and the fascial covering forms compartments. This fascial covering is also continuous with the covering around your bone (the periosteum of the tibia). When muscles work they 'swell' as blood flow to them increases. With appropriate stress this fascial tissue will expand to accommodate the increase in size. Too much load too soon means not enough time for that adaptation to occur. This means pain because the periosteum/bone is very highly innervated and thus feels pain readily. Too much continued stress and you will begin to get microfracture of the tibia as the periosteum pulls at the bone and you will eventually either end up with a stress fracture (best case scenario) or compartment syndrome (worst case scenario)
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Re: **** pain
I agree with several others here--you shouldn't have shin pain such as you describe. I started out as non-physically-fit as they come, and I never had a problem with my shins. Please, take it easy--and don't slap your feet!
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Re: **** pain
from what i've read in the replies I think the best thing for me to do is take a week off. I'm not afraid to loose my gains if I'm only off for a bit.
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Re: **** pain
Irongirl wrote:PinkLady wrote:REST!!!!
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Rule of thumb: Concrete is 10 times harder than asphalt. And asphalt 10 times harder that dirt. Don't do speed work on concrete.
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Re: **** pain
Can you keep your runs on turf or trails or mix trails and road?
I had similar issues a few years ago, and even after winter when I would start increasing my mileage, I'd sometimes end up with shin pain. And then I discovered trails...
Ease into trail running, start with grass and smoother dirt trails before going to rooty, rocky, hilly trails.
I had similar issues a few years ago, and even after winter when I would start increasing my mileage, I'd sometimes end up with shin pain. And then I discovered trails...
Ease into trail running, start with grass and smoother dirt trails before going to rooty, rocky, hilly trails.
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Re: **** pain
From my expierience you don't need to rest from shinsplints. And you shoudn't be slapping your feet while running. It should be a soft impact.
Re: **** pain
codePoet wrote:FULL OUT running, the kind where your feet are practically slapping the ground.
As a former sufferer of shin splints, my $.02 are:
1- Rest
2- Ice
3- When you do get back to running, pay attention to your form. Slapping sounds are not good. I had to make a concious effort to pay attention to my footfalls, and after a while running softly and lightly started to come naturally. Shortening my stride also helped me with shin pain.
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Re: **** pain
erinmcd wrote:3- When you do get back to running, pay attention to your form. Slapping sounds are not good. I had to make a conscious effort to pay attention to my footfalls, and after a while running softly and lightly started to come naturally. Shortening my stride also helped me with shin pain.
This.
I had terrible problems with shin splits as a beginner runner. Now I know it was because I was trying to run too hard and over-striding at first. Focus on being light on your feet and shortening your stride. You'll be slower at first but it will help you develop a more relaxed style that will eventually allow you to progress more easily.
Sometimes overly cushioned shoes allow people to run harder than their bodies are really ready for, too.
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Re: **** pain
Wouldn't a slapping sound indicate a super-strong heel strike? That's got to be jarring.
Re: **** pain
Joe Dwarf wrote:Wouldn't a slapping sound indicate a super-strong heel strike? That's got to be jarring.
No. Actually, slapping feet indicates weak dorsiflexion muscles, aka anterior tibialis area (the ones along the outside front of the shin bone that is supposed to resist the pull of gravity as you walk/run, so you *don't* slap the ground.)
Common cause of shin splints in newer runners especially. A great exercise for strengthening them is wall sit shin raises, which are explained here:
http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/arc ... plints.htm
And, a soft landing is all about having a strong core......it really helps to imagine your torso (hips up) lifting away from the ground, and resisting collapsing with every step......think like a ballet dancer, it's all about the 'pulling up' to be the lightest on your feet.
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